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Revisiting the Markham No.17

CaliAir shoots the King no.17 circa 1917. This particular specimen was acquired via the Baker Daisy collection. I’m seeing it listed these days for nearly $400 which is good cause it’s around what I paid for it! This No.17 is propertied to have been made around 1919 but the actual date is uncertain. It could be from anywhere between 1917-1934 when they stopped making them. Advertising for this gun was most prolific in the 1920’s (1922). This brass barreled beauty requires the vintage lead ammo.

This gun shoots pretty darn well out at 10 yards. BB’s are the only thing we are shooting today but it is also capable of shooting darts and pellets! In ways this is reminiscent of both the original Daisy from 1888 to todays portable little Buck – albeit the Buck is not a break barrel. This is not the only video on the King no.17 that I’ve done and it won’t be the last. This gun reminds me of the Quackenbush that was a firearm and a pellet gun from the late 1800’s.

Check out the first video I did of the Markham no.17 here.

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Markham King No. 17 1917

The Markham King No.17 was produced between 1917 to 1932. It is a carry over from his original wooden Chicago Model from 1887 and continued production even after Daisy fully acquired King from Markham in the 1920’s.

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Markham had some unique designs. The 1900 Queen Take Down (1900-1907) was capable of breaking down into 3 pieces. The No. 17 had the handy feature of shooting 3 different types of projectiles: bb’s, pellets, and darts! The older guns such as this require lead bb’s and not the modern steal bb’s we use today.img_5985-1.jpgimg_5986-1

This gun was acquires through Dennis Baker of “Daisy King”. I paid a premium for it due to first time buyer naiveté. The gun had been restored and is in fine shooting condition and the stock and receiver are nice and tight with no wobble. 

I’m not certain that Dennis Baker actually did the work on this lil rifle or how much work he did on it. The esthetic of the gun remains intact regardless.

The leather seals are still holding out on this 100 year old plus youth carbine. It requires the .180 cal ammo but does ok with the standard .177 – just stay away from the steel bb’s and pellets. img_5993-1img_5994-1

This gun is my all time favorite close range multi ammo shooter. Well, it’s the ONLY multi ammo vintage carbine in the collection. Even though I paid a bit too much for this gun I was not disappointed and remain happy with my purchase. The No. 17 and the Daisy No. 25 from 1917 were sold to me as a pair. We also paid a premium for a No. 103 Model 33 Super Buzz Barton Special. These three guns will be in the collection for a long time.

I’m still on the lookout for: King Chicago, Daisy No. 25 1st var, and a Daisy No. 95 Model 32 Buzz Barton Special (modeled after the King no. 55).

Check out all the break barrels in the collection.

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Daisy Model C 1910-1914

So far this Daisy Model C from 1910 is the oldest gun in the CaliAir collection. The Model C was produced between 1910 to 1914. It represents the pinnacle of the break barrels that Daisy first began producing with Markham King in 1886. By this time the lever action guns were gaining popularity and the new pump action No. 25 was soon to make its appearance in 1914 thanks to Fred Lefevere’s new design.

This Model C is in pretty good condition. After 100 years or so the wood is bound to shrink and this creates a wobbely stock to reciever connection. Since they are put together via rivets instead of screws it is not a simple matter to tighten.

The groupings from 15-20 feet away weren’t too bad.  The pre 1933 guns are supposed  to take a slightly larger .180 caliber  however this gun is listed as taking the standard .175 caliber. In this demo we used vintage lead no.2 air rifle shot from Winchester.

The shot tube appears to have been remodeled using solder but the workmanship is good. It functions as it was intended. The black sleeve on the table is silicone impregnated and keeps the gun safe from moisture.

The old Daisy design stamped on both sides of the receiver. There is little rust and the nickeling is about 70-80% intact. Check out the cast iron trigger!

The etching on the receiver is hard to make out but is still readable. This gun is kept well oiled to keep it preserved and only shot on special occasions about once a year. 

The basic design from the early wooden Markham rifles seems to be carried over to the Model C. In fact Markham had released his Model C, Model D, and Model E – all before 1910. The Daisy Model C could very well be a rebranded King as many of Daisy’s guns were.

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