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1950’s Iconic Red Ryder no.111

There is something appealing about the 1950’s Red Ryder. In 1952 they began to replace the wood front stock with a “fancy” plastic design. The early plastics had a tendency to warp from the heat of the sun and few models escaped this anomaly.

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I was excited to get another one of these in the collection. They still have the wood rear stock with the Fred Harman Red Ryder engraving and the saddle ring. The models from the 50’s tend to hit pretty hard. This seems to be the consensus from fellow owners.

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These guns were made in the Plymouth Michigan factory where all Daisy’s were made up until 1958. Before the Rogers Arkansas factory took over production the Plymouth factory was putting out rifles with both plastic stocks and forearms.

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The 1952 Red Ryder would be the last to see a wood stock until the reissues came out in the 70’s with the Model 1938 Red Ryder. The no.111 Model 40 has come full circle from 1940 all wood, to 1950’s partial wood, to late 50’s/60’s all plastic and back now to all wood.

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This particular rifle has some replacement nuts but is otherwise original and complete.

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The classic tiny ding on the side of the barrel. It makes you wonder how many kids shot their own bb gun and why? The barrels are still “blued” and the brownish patina is testament to this. The painted barrels had the advantage of not rusting as easily and eventually all Red Ryder’s and most Daisy’s will be painted.

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Definitely not the original nuts. I don’t mind the brass one but I’ll look for proper replacements for them. By 1947 the cast iron lever was forever replaced by a cast aluminum lever that was painted black. The paint easily came off and that issue would be solved in the 80’s with a special plastic lever.

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As with many vintage models this one is a little on the loud side. Still tenable for backyard plinking but not the quietest plinker. It’s possible a synthetic seals would make it more quiet. My 102 Cub from 1960’s is super quiet – but I’m not sure if the gun was worked on or functioned that way out of the box. I’m assuming it has synthetic seals none the less. And I will further assume the 1952 model shown here has leather seals and contributes to it’s loud report.

The Red Ryder is the greatest selling bb gun of all time. The bulk of them would have been the plastic stock models. Although production began in 1940 it was halted due to WWII. Regular production didn’t resume until 1946 and by 1952 the plastic made it’s entry into the design. The plastic stock and forearm Red Ryder’s would have a good 20+ year production run before the return of the wood reintroduced on the Model 1938 Red Ryder in 1977.

It’s hard not to pick up more Red Ryder’s. They are great guns and like this 1952 Red Ryder are loads of fun to shoot.

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Lightning Loader No.108 model 39

IMG_0609The No.108 has a special place in my world of collecting Daisy’s. The Lighting Loader from 1939 is very interesting. It sort of came before the wildly  famous Model 40 also known as the No.111 Red Ryder. Except the story is the Red Ryder was actually developed in 1938 and not released until 1940. The 1972 Red Ryder was renamed the Model 1938 in recognition of this. Personally I think the Model 39 Lightning Loader has a great feel to it. It doesn’t have the saddle ring or the etching on the stock and the foregrip is smaller than that of the Red Ryder. But this is what I actually like about the Model 39.IMG_4432

Without the frills and sporting the pre war cast iron lever gives this carbine a serious look. The barrel is considerably shorter than the Red Ryder making this an SBR… just kidding.

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From what I gather they must have sold this model as they were getting ready to license and market the Red Ryder. The No. 108 is getting more difficult to find in good condition. A lot was going on in the world when the Lightning Loader came out in 1939. By 1942 all production was halted until 1945 after WWII. The Model 39 and the Model 40 variants 1 to 4 are the last guns to get the cast iron levers. The post war iron shortage caused the company to go with cast aluminum from 1947 onwards.

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Daisy History

There are a couple of sources online and in print that gloss over the history of Daisy. Details are hard to come by and there are more questions than clear answers. The company began advertising in the late 1800’s if not certainly by the early 1900’s. A good portion of the puzzle can be answered by observing the various ads over the years.

This is not meant to be a concise article on Daisy history. The images included are a look into the rich history of the Daisy bb gun and the bb gun industry as a whole. I will update this page as I get more information ie dates, places, locations.

 

 

 

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Red Ryder Christmas Dream 1938B

img_5698The story on this carbine is hilarious and typical of Hollywood. It’s yet another cult of celebrity tie in. I have not seen it but the gun commemorates the movie “A Christmas Story” from 1983. The signature line of the movie became commonplace even if you didn’t see the movie. “Ralphie: No! No! I want an Official Red Ryder Carbine-Action Two-Hundred-Shot Range Model Air Rifle! Santa Claus: You’ll shoot your eye out, kid.”

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The Red Ryder never came with a sundial or a compass. That was a feature on the 1934 No.107 Buck Jones Special. Also the Red Ryder logo was put on the right side of the stock because the actor was left handed.

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This 2018 Model 1938B “A Christmas Dream” is a 35th Anniversary 1983 repro LE #0639 of 2500 made. The first one I got from Daisy died after a couple months or so. Lucky they were happy to replace it with an even lower serial number. Supposedly the guns are assembled in Rogers Arkansas but the parts are from “overseas”.

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Regardless of where the parts are made and that the lever, trigger and front sight are plastic – the gun is a great shooter. Hitting out at 50 yards all day long. Super quiet and plenty of power to lob the bb where it needs to go. The hi tech ability to navigate and tell time with the gun using solar energy is an awesomely stylish mod. Firearms manufacturers haven’t even caught up with that level of badass!

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Of course we’d all like to see this gun with a blued barrel, cast iron lever and an old school loading port. But the wood quality is good unlike their Chinese pressboard stocks and fore grips. Who knows the faux wood may last forever but I’m glad they went with real wood on this model. Although the new style loading port negates having a copper band front sight they did include a copper barrel band. Nice touch.

I think the Rogers factory is more geared toward custom stocks and commemorative reissues. Perhaps someday they will bring manufacturing back to the US. If they do I’m sure the prices will come way up on their new and vintage guns.

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The Red Ryder 1938B Model

CaliAir talks about the peculiarly named “1938” Red Ryder and compares it to the Model 40’s that preceded it. Daisy perhaps by way of space time travel reissued the non existent 1938 Model in 1972 and then again in the 80’s. The original “1938 Model” from 1972 was almost identical to the 1952 Model 40 no.111.

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Today’s featured gun is the 1988 50th Anniversary Commemorative 1938B. It seems the letter “B” is used to nomenclate a reissue. The current Buck no.105B lever action youth gun uses this identification as well. This leaves us with a slight perplexity. The original No.105 Junior Buck from 1933 was a pump action not a lever action gun. In fact the 1933 No.105 was really just the Markham designed No.5 pump gun rebranded.

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Perhaps someone over at Daisy can enlighten us on the peculiar model naming conventions that were used.

This particular carbine is a good shooter. It’s quiet and still hits hard. It has moderate wear and hasn’t seen much abuse. It survived the 80’s better than a lot of folks I know.

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I have Daisy guns from the 1940’s that have painted barrels. By the 1950’s/60’s Daisy started painting most of their barrels. The blueing, nickel and chrome plated guns have their charm but few have escaped the ravages of rust. The painted guns do have the unique advantage of resisting rust.

My best guess thus far is the”1938B” date is significant because it was the date when the Red Ryder started being designed. Licensing was acquired 1939 and sales and marketing began in 1940. That is – sold until 1942 as WWII progressed. The cast iron lever 1st variant Model 40 is easy to spot with it’s cooper sight and barrel bands. These features were gone when production resumed in 1946.

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